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Bgnome · Apr 17, 2005, 11:16 PM // 23:16

pre-order people have a 48 hour window to input a retail code with uninterrupted play. people who did not pre-order can only play when they input the retail code. if a person who pre-ordered does not put in a retail code by midnight on the 28th, they will no longer be able to play.

Ignotus · Apr 17, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Ah, now I think I completely understand. You can play using your beta key for 48 hours, but you will only get a 24 hour head-start on people who did not preorder.

bad attempt at a timeline follows:

EDIT:
In essence, this 48 hour period of access is like one last beta event.
Btw, what is "Ministry of Knowledge"? Is that someone with a high post count, someone at guildwarsguru.com, or is that someone from ArenaNet?

Loviatar · Apr 18, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignotus

Ah, now I think I completely understand. You can play using your beta key for 48 hours, but you will only get a 24 hour head-start on people who did not preorder.

bad attempt at a timeline follows:

EDIT:
In essence, this 48 hour period of access is like one last beta event.
Btw, what is "Ministry of Knowledge"? Is that someone with a high post count, someone at guildwarsguru.com, or is that someone from ArenaNet?

i think it is post related but at least one of the admins have it also

ProLogiC · Apr 18, 2005, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Hi to all.

this is something that has been on my mind the last few days playing this game.

I have heard many rumors regarding the 'wiping' of your character, Can someone please go into specific detail about what Exactly happens to your character prior to retail release.

I would preferably like an Admin to answer to this question, as I nee someone that knows what they are talking about

Things I would like to know:

Is a Guild Kept intact?
Is any gold collected left or removed?
Are any items that have been collected or used, kept?
If your character went to 'War' will the charaters still be in that world?
Will any Uncovered map area be saved
Will any Portals that have been found be kept
Will any Quests that have been completed or started be saved?

An addition to the last question is: If quests are saved, how is a charater meant to level up from Lvl 1, as the majority of the experience is gained through completing the quests.

All in all, I dont think it is really fair that people who have purchased the beta Preorder should be Penalised for the people that didnt buy it, as some people have spent many hours playing, reporting bugs etc.

Well this is the end of my speech, I know I speak for most people that played the last Beta Test this weekend, so really the answers that are recieved in this thread can be for everyone that played and that have the same thoughts on this subject.

thanx

Zeppelin · Apr 18, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41

I'm far from a mod, but as has been said many times, your character completely starts from scratch. I'm not sure if you keep your Guild, but other than possibly that, your name is the only thing you keep from what I understand. No gold, no quests, no other worlds, none of that.

Also, it would be awesome to keep your characters, but if they're deleted it's not really a punishment. We are the ones who benefitted by being able to learn the game, where to go, which skills to use, how to use certain commands. It will be that much easier when the game really comes out. While new users are trying to figure out all that stuff, we'll quickly be on our way to post-searing and beyond. We got a sneak-peek at the game before others, got to check it out and try different things, get a feel for what the game would be like...it's not that bad of a punishment really.

AGTyson2Tone · Apr 18, 2005, 12:55 PM // 12:55

I don't see it as a punishment. I think that the journey is a lot more interesting than the destination, so playing the game (questing) is a lot more fun than being level 15 when the game comes out.

It's like Zeppelin said, we had the chance to get to know the game, no more no less.
I hope everything will be reset, that would mean more fun for the same price.

MindBullets · Apr 18, 2005, 01:05 PM // 13:05

ProLogic, I think you're completely missing the point of a Beta.
It is in place to help ArenaNet polish the game before it is released.

Those lucky enough to play as Alphas have had a large amount of input as far as gameplay and in game changes.

Those of us that pre-ordered have a luxury that few games offer. They gave us
the oppurtunity to play a game for $10 to ensure we liked what we saw. It also gave us input and a voice when that would otherwise be left up to those in closed Beta.

As far as character wipe is concerned, I've NEVER seen a company allow people allow players to keep Beta characters. Even the Alphas are going to start from square one. Just because you paid $10 for the pre-order doesn't give you precedence over someone that did.

I think you're missing the big picture which is being able to play a Beta that would otherwise be unavailable to you, not to mention the fact that you get an in-game item that those that didn't pre-order will. That alone should be worth your $10.

Just my thoughts,

Mind

openfly · Apr 18, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07

So basically I won a pre-order product at a gaming competition thing... So like I have no idea how it works... Presumably from what I am seeing here I need to get a retail key. Does that mean I need to buy the game retail? or has my pre-order product already reserved me a copy? If it is reserved... then how do I claim it?

Sausaletus Rex · Apr 18, 2005, 02:22 PM // 14:22

The wipe is coming, yes, and it will wipe out everything but your character's name. If past experiences are true you'll log into the game come release and find them replaced by level 1 Warriors or something along those lines. You can then delete them and start a character with the name you're holding. Guilds, the ladder, WaW, everything will be wiped, too. Guilds will need to be reformed once you get in game.

A wipe at this point is really necessary because there hasn't been one in a while. People were still walking around with outdated remnants of past versions of the game. There were still skill rings and skill charms floating around, crafting materials from far enough back wouldn't stack, old armors could still be worn, Swiftness weapons, +3/-1 energy stealing swords, and so on. Put aside any issues of "fairness" or "starting everyone from scratch" they need a complete wipe to make sure that there are no broken items from older versions still hanging around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by openfly

So basically I won a pre-order product at a gaming competition thing... So like I have no idea how it works... Presumably from what I am seeing here I need to get a retail key. Does that mean I need to buy the game retail? or has my pre-order product already reserved me a copy? If it is reserved... then how do I claim it?

Your pre-order key from your pre-order will let you test the game out from the 27th through the 28th. After that it's useless and you'll need to purchase the full retail game. I'm not sure if having your pre-order will count as a discount on your retail purchase or not considering how you got it, though.

Dravic Badmoon · Apr 18, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

During the last hours of this last BWE, I was able to ask Gaile about the guilds and if they would be wiped. She informed me that they would not be wiped, but devs have been known to change thier mind at the last second. I though I post a message for everyone.

DigitalX · Apr 18, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Spooky

Guilds will be wiped. They must be recreated after release.

According to the Guild Wars website, they will not be wiped... they only said that character's stats, items, levels, gold, and skills will be wiped, nothing more, nothing less...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuildWars.com FAQ

We have had only one character reset during the Guild Wars Alpha Test, and we anticipate that we will have just one reset prior to launch of the game. At that time, all characters will be reset to a Level 1 placeholder character and all skills and items that the character has acquired will also be reset. The placeholder character is put in place to reserve your name only, and you will want to recreate your character with your chosen profession and appearance.

We understand that resets of any kind can be a bit frustrating. But it is essential that all players start Guild Wars on an equal footing, so resetting accounts is a necessary process. There is one exception, though: After the pre-release reset and as a thank you to those who have shown advance support of Guild Wars, there will be an opportunity for preorder customers to have one day of Early Access into the game. The levels, skills and items that a player acquires during the Early Access period will not be reset, and the character(s) will maintain ranking and inventory as the game officially opens. Early Access for Guild Wars will open at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Time (08:01 GMT) on April 27th, and end at 11:59 p.m. Pacific on April 28th (07:59 GMT April 29th). Early Access will furnish preorder customers with up to 48 hours of early access. More details will be provided closer to launch.

There, taken directly from their FAQ

TylinB · Apr 18, 2005, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Sorry if this was covered somewhere, but if you got the pre-order from Amazon or another place online, how do we get the retail version in time to participate in 48 hrs before launch? Not long after I ordered GW a Gamestop opened up in the area, so can I get a retail version there even though I didn't get the pre-order there? Any info would be appreciated!

Brungo · Apr 19, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21

I have literally been waiting 4-5 years to be able to start a mmo on it's opening day. Heck, let alone a day earlier than everyone else. This is excellent. Need to get all the food and drink items needed for a 48hr grind.

Manderlock · Apr 19, 2005, 10:28 AM // 10:28

It is my understanding that guild hall will be wiped, it the sence that you *will* have reregister your guild and you *will* have to come up with the 1000 gold to to have a cape/guild hall agin.

venus_dark · Apr 19, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Are our characters wiped beginning on the 27th at 12 am or the 28th at midnight? Starting early, to me, means that those that pre-ordered get to have a 24 hr. advantage over the ones that didn't.

If this is the case, I will gladly use a little vacation time as to take full advantage of the opportunity

.

If, however, starting early only means that we get to play our old characters for 24 hrs., that would be kinda dumb to take a vacation day for

. I just need to be sure, although it seems likely we get an early start with our NEW toons. Old ones are probably wiped already.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Loviatar · Apr 19, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus_dark

Are our characters wiped beginning on the 27th at 12 am or the 28th at midnight? Starting early, to me, means that those that pre-ordered get to have a 24 hr. advantage over the ones that didn't.

If this is the case, I will gladly use a little vacation time as to take full advantage of the opportunity

.

If, however, starting early only means that we get to play our old characters for 24 hrs., that would be kinda dumb to take a vacation day for

. I just need to be sure, although it seems likely we get an early start with our NEW toons. Old ones are probably wiped already.
Thanks in advance for any help.

the wipe has already occurred or will shortly

you get a 24 hour fresh start over the people buying it on the 28th

anything you get in that 24 head head start is yours to keep

venus_dark · Apr 19, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

the wipe has already occurred or will shortly

you get a 24 hour fresh start over the people buying it on the 28th

anything you get in that 24 head head start is yours to keep

Thank you very much for confirming that for me! Now I know my vacation day I'm taking won't be wasted

.

savanus · Apr 19, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Hi,
Not that I havn't read the millions of posts saying that the game will be released no sooner than the 28th but amazon claims to release it on the 22nd!
Here's a quote:
This item will be released on April 22, 2005. You may order it now and we will dispatch it to you when we receive it from our supplier. Please note that release dates are subject to change.
And before you ask I did read the last line it just seems a bit wierd that if the quote is not true then why havn't they updated their site.
I'm very confused please help
Thanks

TheSecondSeven · Apr 19, 2005, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manderlock

It is my understanding that guild hall will be wiped, it the sence that you *will* have reregister your guild and you *will* have to come up with the 1000 gold to to have a cape/guild hall agin.

Well here's yet another contradiction, I think for now I will believe that the Guild will remain intack because of the quote taken from the QaA, thats all I care about, not the cape or the Hall, just that I have all the members still on my list, just like the Friends list staying. Anyone else got concrete facts on this? Thank you.

Dravic Badmoon · Apr 19, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Take note of my post from above, when a dev states that guilds WILL NOT be wiped, then that means with a high probability of confidence that what the dev has said is true. Keep in mind though, devs are human and can change their minds at the last second.

Apr 17, 2005, 11:16 PM // 23:16	#21
Bgnome Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005	pre-order people have a 48 hour window to input a retail code with uninterrupted play. people who did not pre-order can only play when they input the retail code. if a person who pre-ordered does not put in a retail code by midnight on the 28th, they will no longer be able to play. __________________ [quote=Sausaletus Rex]...When you respond to a thread in [Q&A] make sure, and I mean damn sur

Apr 17, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#22
Ignotus Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2005 Guild: Parliament of Rooks Profession: W/Mo	Ah, now I think I completely understand. You can play using your beta key for 48 hours, but you will only get a 24 hour head-start on people who did not preorder. bad attempt at a timeline follows: EDIT: In essence, this 48 hour period of access is like one last beta event. Btw, what is "Ministry of Knowledge"? Is that someone with a high post count, someone at guildwarsguru.com, or is that someone from ArenaNet? Last edited by Ignotus; Apr 17, 2005 at 11:52 PM // 23:52.. Reason: added comment about one last "beta event"

Apr 18, 2005, 12:17 PM // 12:17	#24
ProLogiC Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005	Beta Test Over - Character reset Hi to all. this is something that has been on my mind the last few days playing this game. I have heard many rumors regarding the 'wiping' of your character, Can someone please go into specific detail about what Exactly happens to your character prior to retail release. I would preferably like an Admin to answer to this question, as I nee someone that knows what they are talking about Things I would like to know: Is a Guild Kept intact? Is any gold collected left or removed? Are any items that have been collected or used, kept? If your character went to 'War' will the charaters still be in that world? Will any Uncovered map area be saved Will any Portals that have been found be kept Will any Quests that have been completed or started be saved? An addition to the last question is: If quests are saved, how is a charater meant to level up from Lvl 1, as the majority of the experience is gained through completing the quests. All in all, I dont think it is really fair that people who have purchased the beta Preorder should be Penalised for the people that didnt buy it, as some people have spent many hours playing, reporting bugs etc. Well this is the end of my speech, I know I speak for most people that played the last Beta Test this weekend, so really the answers that are recieved in this thread can be for everyone that played and that have the same thoughts on this subject. thanx

Apr 18, 2005, 12:55 PM // 12:55	#26
AGTyson2Tone Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brussels - Belgium Guild: Alpha Gamer Profession: N/Me	no punishment I don't see it as a punishment. I think that the journey is a lot more interesting than the destination, so playing the game (questing) is a lot more fun than being level 15 when the game comes out. It's like Zeppelin said, we had the chance to get to know the game, no more no less. I hope everything will be reset, that would mean more fun for the same price.

Apr 18, 2005, 01:05 PM // 13:05	#27
MindBullets Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SLC, Utah	Missing the point... ProLogic, I think you're completely missing the point of a Beta. It is in place to help ArenaNet polish the game before it is released. Those lucky enough to play as Alphas have had a large amount of input as far as gameplay and in game changes. Those of us that pre-ordered have a luxury that few games offer. They gave us the oppurtunity to play a game for $10 to ensure we liked what we saw. It also gave us input and a voice when that would otherwise be left up to those in closed Beta. As far as character wipe is concerned, I've NEVER seen a company allow people allow players to keep Beta characters. Even the Alphas are going to start from square one. Just because you paid $10 for the pre-order doesn't give you precedence over someone that did. I think you're missing the big picture which is being able to play a Beta that would otherwise be unavailable to you, not to mention the fact that you get an in-game item that those that didn't pre-order will. That alone should be worth your $10. Just my thoughts, Mind

Apr 18, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41	#25
Zeppelin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Houses Of The Holy Profession: W/N	I'm far from a mod, but as has been said many times, your character completely starts from scratch. I'm not sure if you keep your Guild, but other than possibly that, your name is the only thing you keep from what I understand. No gold, no quests, no other worlds, none of that. Also, it would be awesome to keep your characters, but if they're deleted it's not really a punishment. We are the ones who benefitted by being able to learn the game, where to go, which skills to use, how to use certain commands. It will be that much easier when the game really comes out. While new users are trying to figure out all that stuff, we'll quickly be on our way to post-searing and beyond. We got a sneak-peek at the game before others, got to check it out and try different things, get a feel for what the game would be like...it's not that bad of a punishment really.

Apr 18, 2005, 01:07 PM // 13:07	#28
openfly Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005	This sounds stupid I know... So basically I won a pre-order product at a gaming competition thing... So like I have no idea how it works... Presumably from what I am seeing here I need to get a retail key. Does that mean I need to buy the game retail? or has my pre-order product already reserved me a copy? If it is reserved... then how do I claim it?

Apr 18, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49	#30
Dravic Badmoon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Currently AFK at the moment... Guild: Badmoon's Militia Profession: Me/E	What I was told from Gaile During the last hours of this last BWE, I was able to ask Gaile about the guilds and if they would be wiped. She informed me that they would not be wiped, but devs have been known to change thier mind at the last second. I though I post a message for everyone.

Apr 18, 2005, 09:45 PM // 21:45	#32
TylinB Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005	Ordered online Sorry if this was covered somewhere, but if you got the pre-order from Amazon or another place online, how do we get the retail version in time to participate in 48 hrs before launch? Not long after I ordered GW a Gamestop opened up in the area, so can I get a retail version there even though I didn't get the pre-order there? Any info would be appreciated!

Apr 19, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21	#33
Brungo Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa,FL,USA	I have literally been waiting 4-5 years to be able to start a mmo on it's opening day. Heck, let alone a day earlier than everyone else. This is excellent. Need to get all the food and drink items needed for a 48hr grind.

Apr 19, 2005, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#34
Manderlock Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TX Guild: Crimson ScS Profession: W/N	It is my understanding that guild hall will be wiped, it the sence that you will have reregister your guild and you will have to come up with the 1000 gold to to have a cape/guild hall agin.

Apr 19, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04	#35
venus_dark Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dark Horse Plains Guild: Factions of God Profession: W/Mo	Question about starting early Are our characters wiped beginning on the 27th at 12 am or the 28th at midnight? Starting early, to me, means that those that pre-ordered get to have a 24 hr. advantage over the ones that didn't. If this is the case, I will gladly use a little vacation time as to take full advantage of the opportunity . If, however, starting early only means that we get to play our old characters for 24 hrs., that would be kinda dumb to take a vacation day for . I just need to be sure, although it seems likely we get an early start with our NEW toons. Old ones are probably wiped already. Thanks in advance for any help.

Apr 19, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19	#38
savanus Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	Hi, Not that I havn't read the millions of posts saying that the game will be released no sooner than the 28th but amazon claims to release it on the 22nd! Here's a quote: This item will be released on April 22, 2005. You may order it now and we will dispatch it to you when we receive it from our supplier. Please note that release dates are subject to change. And before you ask I did read the last line it just seems a bit wierd that if the quote is not true then why havn't they updated their site. I'm very confused please help Thanks

Apr 19, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#40
Dravic Badmoon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Currently AFK at the moment... Guild: Badmoon's Militia Profession: Me/E	Take note of my post from above, when a dev states that guilds WILL NOT be wiped, then that means with a high probability of confidence that what the dev has said is true. Keep in mind though, devs are human and can change their minds at the last second.